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1.
Love Yahoo!!! wannabe a princess
I've been totally shocked with the whole universal health care thing. The people that preach God's word the most are those who are the most against it... but not only against it, they use nasty stereotypes when they refer to those who need some kind of help. Even people of my own religion, I still can't believe it.
Shouldn't religious people follow Jesus' steps and help others instead of judging them nastily?
I'm not saying that they need to agree with universal health care, what I'm saying is that at least showing a little mercy would help. And yes, the nastiest stuff I've seen are from friends that follow the same religion I do (and have health insurance). Everything so selfish and money-obsessive. Hypocrisy too much?
In my opinion, insurance companies are the worst evil out there. Money is more important than life for them. It's incredible that the terrorists at Guantanamo Bay get better health care than millions of good American citizens.
"Healthcare is a privilege, not a right." -one of my friends. That's when I started to lose faith in humanity.
But oh well.. I guess funding a pointless war that kills thousands of innocents would be what Jesus would do. I mean, it's cool if tax money goes to that instead of helping the people on crack that don't want to get a job, right?
Shouldn't religious people follow Jesus' steps and help others instead of judging them nastily?
I'm not saying that they need to agree with universal health care, what I'm saying is that at least showing a little mercy would help. And yes, the nastiest stuff I've seen are from friends that follow the same religion I do (and have health insurance). Everything so selfish and money-obsessive. Hypocrisy too much?
In my opinion, insurance companies are the worst evil out there. Money is more important than life for them. It's incredible that the terrorists at Guantanamo Bay get better health care than millions of good American citizens.
"Healthcare is a privilege, not a right." -one of my friends. That's when I started to lose faith in humanity.
But oh well.. I guess funding a pointless war that kills thousands of innocents would be what Jesus would do. I mean, it's cool if tax money goes to that instead of helping the people on crack that don't want to get a job, right?
2.
1977LesPaul
Actually I don’t know anyone who doesn’t believe that we need a social safety net of some sort, so your arguments are wrong and over the top. For one thing, the hospitals in this nation were mostly all founded by Christians. Another thing you seem misinformed about is that anyone in this nation who doesn’t have money to get medical help can walk into any emergency room in this nation and be treated. So I wonder why a person so full of lies and slander even deserves an answer, but here is your answer.
America is the greatest nation that has ever been. It’s a nation of equality and freedom because those are Christian principles that it was founded upon. There are politicians who continually treat people like victims and use them to advance in political power. This reinforces the view in these people that they are victims and that they can’t get ahead without these politicians helping them, only the politicians can’t take money from other people fast enough to help all of the victim mentality people they helped create, so everybody just becomes more miserable, like the nation is right now... There is your answer if you have wits enough to understand it...
By the way, how much money have you given to the poor? How many poor people have you helped lately? Oh yes, liberalals just love to use other peoples money, so they can feel good about themselves, and have nothing come out of thier own pockets...
America is the greatest nation that has ever been. It’s a nation of equality and freedom because those are Christian principles that it was founded upon. There are politicians who continually treat people like victims and use them to advance in political power. This reinforces the view in these people that they are victims and that they can’t get ahead without these politicians helping them, only the politicians can’t take money from other people fast enough to help all of the victim mentality people they helped create, so everybody just becomes more miserable, like the nation is right now... There is your answer if you have wits enough to understand it...
By the way, how much money have you given to the poor? How many poor people have you helped lately? Oh yes, liberalals just love to use other peoples money, so they can feel good about themselves, and have nothing come out of thier own pockets...
3.
Old Timer Too
I'm glad you indicated evangelical PACs (Political Action Committees -- interest groups), since that narrowed those involved with this position considerably.
Obviously, not all Christians agree with the evangelical groups and are also not all republicans. Many tend to be democrats, supporting the idea of universal healthcare.
The fear, whether real or imagined, is socialism. Socialism falls into the realm of a _kind_ of NWO (new world order) which is seen as a real problem and therefore, anything that smacks of the United States heading toward socialism of any kind, is viewed with disdain and fear.
By the way, I favor some forms of socialism, and there are a large number of evangelicals that benefit from socialist programs (whether they admit to them or not) -- such as medicare, medicaid, and publicly-funded welfare programs. But for some reason that escapes my logic (as if logic actually had anything to do with the evangelical thinking process) they oppose any increases (or, for that matter, decreases) in any form of socialism.
Also, I should point out that not all evangelicals fall into this category, either. While they tend to be conservative, there are evangelical movements (not the kind that is involved with this question) among mainstream Christian churches, including Catholicism, and many Protestant denominations (Episcopalian, Lutheran, Methodists, Presbyterians, etc.).
The real key seems to be among those fundamentalist evangelicals, which include the holier-than-thou, you-are-going-to-hell-if-you-don't-belie... groups. They are largely represented by the so-called "Bible belt".
As to welfare, I have problems with that program, but more because of what it does (it is a bad program, not because it helps those in need, but because it tends to create a second-class citizen and traps many of those within the system... but that's another story). I believe that any welfare program should actively work toward getting the people on it self-sufficient so that they don't remain trapped by the system for three, four, five or more generations. There's a lot involved and beyond the scope of this response.
Personally, I have no problem with any system (run by the government or otherwise) that helps those who are truly in need.
Finally, I concur with your position, but then I tend to be a moderate, politically speaking, so I guess the question really isn't directed to me. Still, I appreciate the opportunity to express my thoughts on the matter.
Add: And yes, it is not only anti-Christian to oppose helping those in need (denying them their basic needs), but opposite of what Jesus taught.
The biggest problem is that people oppose the situation under the guise that it won't be universal or it is doomed to failure. My position is to work toward making it so it doesn't fail and give it a chance to actually work. To oppose it without giving it a chance denies the basics to those who need it and is politically motivated without regard to the reality of religious teachings on the part of those who oppose it.
Obviously, not all Christians agree with the evangelical groups and are also not all republicans. Many tend to be democrats, supporting the idea of universal healthcare.
The fear, whether real or imagined, is socialism. Socialism falls into the realm of a _kind_ of NWO (new world order) which is seen as a real problem and therefore, anything that smacks of the United States heading toward socialism of any kind, is viewed with disdain and fear.
By the way, I favor some forms of socialism, and there are a large number of evangelicals that benefit from socialist programs (whether they admit to them or not) -- such as medicare, medicaid, and publicly-funded welfare programs. But for some reason that escapes my logic (as if logic actually had anything to do with the evangelical thinking process) they oppose any increases (or, for that matter, decreases) in any form of socialism.
Also, I should point out that not all evangelicals fall into this category, either. While they tend to be conservative, there are evangelical movements (not the kind that is involved with this question) among mainstream Christian churches, including Catholicism, and many Protestant denominations (Episcopalian, Lutheran, Methodists, Presbyterians, etc.).
The real key seems to be among those fundamentalist evangelicals, which include the holier-than-thou, you-are-going-to-hell-if-you-don't-belie... groups. They are largely represented by the so-called "Bible belt".
As to welfare, I have problems with that program, but more because of what it does (it is a bad program, not because it helps those in need, but because it tends to create a second-class citizen and traps many of those within the system... but that's another story). I believe that any welfare program should actively work toward getting the people on it self-sufficient so that they don't remain trapped by the system for three, four, five or more generations. There's a lot involved and beyond the scope of this response.
Personally, I have no problem with any system (run by the government or otherwise) that helps those who are truly in need.
Finally, I concur with your position, but then I tend to be a moderate, politically speaking, so I guess the question really isn't directed to me. Still, I appreciate the opportunity to express my thoughts on the matter.
Add: And yes, it is not only anti-Christian to oppose helping those in need (denying them their basic needs), but opposite of what Jesus taught.
The biggest problem is that people oppose the situation under the guise that it won't be universal or it is doomed to failure. My position is to work toward making it so it doesn't fail and give it a chance to actually work. To oppose it without giving it a chance denies the basics to those who need it and is politically motivated without regard to the reality of religious teachings on the part of those who oppose it.
4.
Mr.K
There is no such thing as the Christian political position. Not all evangelicals toe the Republican line. I think that some Republicans have a heart for the poor, but don't think that handouts are the best way to reach this group of people. I think that feeding the poor, and covering the uninsured is a complicated situation, and there is no one way to fix it. EX. Welfare, and Universal Healthcare.
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borninaugust30
very cleverly written. Not all Christians are republicans, but for those that are its not necessarily that Christians don't want to help the sick or poor, because that's obviously one of the things we do believe in. I do, however, believe in free enterprise. It's more of a political issue. Giving the poor everything they ask for only keeps them asking for more and never lifts that dependence umbrella off them. We don't want to government to tell us how to spend our money and how do help the sick and poor. We don't just leave it there though. Most Christians tithe a significant amount of money to the church or various organizations that help the poor etc..Or, even better, we go out into the community and touch the lives of individuals ourselves. I think help is so much more appreciated when it is given personally, and same goes for giving. It's my joy to give; I want to give because I want to, not because I'm forced to by some government.
6.
likn my life
it was this painful dichotomy that turned me off to the church.
Or the party of values yet who are the ones literally getting caught with their pants down? Their daughters pregnant? Against abortion but also against any programs to help those unwanted kids later down the road.
I believe Christianity, for the most part, has been hijacked somewhere down the line because I see very little of what Jesus was teaching in modern day Christianity and especially politics.
That magic 8 ball is pretty smart sometimes...
Or the party of values yet who are the ones literally getting caught with their pants down? Their daughters pregnant? Against abortion but also against any programs to help those unwanted kids later down the road.
I believe Christianity, for the most part, has been hijacked somewhere down the line because I see very little of what Jesus was teaching in modern day Christianity and especially politics.
That magic 8 ball is pretty smart sometimes...
7.
Fabio Bardales
Everything the government owns turns into debt. Look at
fanny Mae
Freddy Mae
Amtrak
medicare
Medicaid
the united states post office
just look at Th history of those and tell me if health care and welfare are going to work out.
So how exaclty do you think Christians benefit or dontbenefit from socialism. Educate yourself the American government is more complicated than any religion
fanny Mae
Freddy Mae
Amtrak
medicare
Medicaid
the united states post office
just look at Th history of those and tell me if health care and welfare are going to work out.
So how exaclty do you think Christians benefit or dontbenefit from socialism. Educate yourself the American government is more complicated than any religion
8.
Calvin
"Universal healthcare" as proposed by the Democratic Party currently will have the effect of making our current system much worse, and will be anything but "universal" when all is said and done. To be a Christian, and to care about the less fortunate, does not obligate a person to sign up for inefficient and ineffective reform measures that are doomed to failure (as to practice) before they have had a single vote.
The American welfare system has done far more damage to the less fortunate families than it has brought them any good thing. It has encouraged generations of failed lives, and laziness.
Beyond both issues however....is the issue of what government is to do, and what it is not to do. Creating social programs, and "bailing out" anyone....rich, poor, or otherwise....is not part of its job description.
No one is starving in America, nor is anyone dieing from lack of hospital care....unless it is of their own doing. The people of this nation have much charity in their hearts, but that does not mean they must subscribe to government programs that do not work and have never worked.
Not to mention that the nation is bankrupt....and spending incredible sums of money on charity...fixing no problem whatsoever in the process (but potentially, and even likely, causing more problems) is not on my Christian, or American, priority list.
The American welfare system has done far more damage to the less fortunate families than it has brought them any good thing. It has encouraged generations of failed lives, and laziness.
Beyond both issues however....is the issue of what government is to do, and what it is not to do. Creating social programs, and "bailing out" anyone....rich, poor, or otherwise....is not part of its job description.
No one is starving in America, nor is anyone dieing from lack of hospital care....unless it is of their own doing. The people of this nation have much charity in their hearts, but that does not mean they must subscribe to government programs that do not work and have never worked.
Not to mention that the nation is bankrupt....and spending incredible sums of money on charity...fixing no problem whatsoever in the process (but potentially, and even likely, causing more problems) is not on my Christian, or American, priority list.
9.
Steve
it's not the christian position, it's the right wing position.
Unfortunately there seems to be only two political parties so people have to choose a grab bag of unrelated ideological ideas to vote for. Both parties are inconsistent and illogical in their positions.
Christians are more likely to have started out voting for conservative morality but have been sucked into the right wing ideology as a result.
Unfortunately there seems to be only two political parties so people have to choose a grab bag of unrelated ideological ideas to vote for. Both parties are inconsistent and illogical in their positions.
Christians are more likely to have started out voting for conservative morality but have been sucked into the right wing ideology as a result.
10.
Sage
46 million!!! That is the number of poor and destitute these christians are condemning!!
That is larger than the populations of many of the countries they want to send aid to!!!
They shame this great country!!
That is larger than the populations of many of the countries they want to send aid to!!!
They shame this great country!!
